You can find the printable PDF file at Jerking the Trigger. Its within 2 inches of point of aim all the way from 10 yards out to 200 yards. This is a case for Mr. MOA. Other Calibers may be used for differentpurposes so I would zero them according to the primary purpose. That seems like a lot. bullet, when zeroed at 26 yards, angles above the line-of-sight 2.81 inches at 200 yards, crosses the line of sight (zero) again at approximately 275 yards, before falling beyond 3 inches low at 310 yards. Now, since we're converting from a 100 -yard zero trajectory to a 200-yard zero trajectory, we begin by looking at how much we must adjust to rezero to the new views and opinions of Springfield Armory. 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On your calculator you show it is superior. Your rifle zero is only correct at two distances. In the offset mount do you do a offset zero since it isnt directly over bore? But it will stay inside of 5" all the way out to 300 yards and then drop 5 inches at 350 and about 13 inches at 400 yards. The goal here is to begin at 100 yards and progressively increase your zero as you improve your shooting skills. You will be able to leave a comment after signing in, AR15Armory.com Other Calibers may be used for different purposes so I would zero them according to the primary purpose. Save Share. Click to expand. Out to 300 yards, it's at 6.6" high at 150 yards at is highest flight path, and 0.2" low at 300 yards, giving me a 6.8" trajectory spread out to 300 yards with irons. @keyframes ibDwUVR1CAykturOgqOS5{0%{transform:rotate(0deg)}to{transform:rotate(1turn)}}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq{--sizePx:0;font-size:4px;position:relative;text-indent:-9999em;border-radius:50%;border:4px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-bodyTextAlpha20);border-left-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);transform:translateZ(0);animation:ibDwUVR1CAykturOgqOS5 1.1s linear infinite}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq,._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq:after{width:var(--sizePx);height:var(--sizePx)}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq:after{border-radius:50%}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq._2qr28EeyPvBWAsPKl-KuWN{margin:0 auto} . But by what percentage vs a 25 yard zero? You should always check your zero at the actual zero distance when possible but this will get you close. It is about .1 MIL difference than a 25 yard zero and a 36 yard zero on the SKS is really a 26 to 52 yard zero. Thisis why you hear people talking (and arguing) about different zeroes such as a 50/200 a 25/300 zero and a 36/300 yard zero. Like a lot of those situations, though, the points argued are based on personal bias and the actual differences are pretty minimal. Even though I dont recommend the 25 yard zero, Im starting here because it is suggested so often, but is also often misrepresented as a 25/300 yard zero. Rifle Specs: M6A2 PSD 8.5 in bbl. Red dots need to take advantage of a point and shoot zero like any of the other options. Highly recommend watching the video. However, over that 100 yards the trajectory is remarkably consistent. I can also tell you from experience that when youre amped up and the lizard brain takes over, youll really only be thinking point and shoot. Between 50 yards and 300 yards is only about 5 inches. 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What is the POI at 100 yards with a 50/200 zero? Horse-shoes & handgrenades I prefer to check the zero at 50 yards quickly and then check again at 200 on a new target when possible. Great zero for shooting steel silhouettes for a target. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. JavaScript is disabled. Never rely on a ballistic calculator, rely on the data your rifle gives you from actually shooting! For a 10.5 inch barrel, the 50 or 36-yard zero will be ideal. The views I use 50-200 because it actually lines up with my BDC drops on the Razor HD ii. I like that idea, if I make another article like this I will see if I can do that. If you KNOW you're going to be shooting targets at exactly 100 yards, then the 100 yard zero (obviously) or even the 25 yard zero are ideal. All your load data fits neatly in the boxes under each target. 36 yard zero or 25 yard danielosborn1994 Feb 11, 2023 The #1 community for Gun Owners in Indiana Member Benefits: Fewer Ads! /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/IdCard.ea0ac1df4e6491a16d39_.css.map*/._2JU2WQDzn5pAlpxqChbxr7{height:16px;margin-right:8px;width:16px}._3E45je-29yDjfFqFcLCXyH{margin-top:16px}._13YtS_rCnVZG1ns2xaCalg{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex}._1m5fPZN4q3vKVg9SgU43u2{margin-top:12px}._17A-IdW3j1_fI_pN-8tMV-{display:inline-block;margin-bottom:8px;margin-right:5px}._5MIPBF8A9vXwwXFumpGqY{border-radius:20px;font-size:12px;font-weight:500;letter-spacing:0;line-height:16px;padding:3px 10px;text-transform:none}._5MIPBF8A9vXwwXFumpGqY:focus{outline:unset} Grabbed it and went out today to sight it in at 36 yards. All that being said, the 50 yard zero continues to be one of my favorite zeroing schemes because its versatile, proven and effective. It is also just theory until you test it yourself but it should be close to what you can expect. Put dot on center massfire away and you are GTG out to 300 with no thought needed for effective combat accuracy. Ballistic Advantage is one of the household names in AR15 barrel manufacturing. In ballistic ae for example you can set a vital zone radius and in the chart it will give you the zero range and max range to hit inside that radius with no hold or adjustment. .ehsOqYO6dxn_Pf9Dzwu37{margin-top:0;overflow:visible}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu{height:24px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu{border-radius:2px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:focus,._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:hover{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-navIconFaded10);outline:none}._38GxRFSqSC-Z2VLi5Xzkjy{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT{border-top:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);cursor:pointer;padding:8px 16px 8px 8px;text-transform:none}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT:hover{background-color:#0079d3;border:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-body)} articles and videos are considered to be suggestions and not recommendations from Springfield Armory. These should also help those using different rifle setups (barrel length) and/or heavier grain bullets get close. When not shooting or writing about shooting, Ian enjoys bushcrafting and hiking in the woods of Virginia. It is a very fast way to zero which is very convenient for me since many carbines are in a constant state of flux as I try various items for review. My advice is to get a ballistic calculator and put in your specific data because there are all sorts of things that will affect the results. Great summary. Lets remember this is a speedy way to start zeroing, but you arnt zeroed unless you confirm AT the zero distance. At 25 yards, groups are .7" inches high above center of target, just under 3/4", w/ rear sight set on "2"- so a 200 meter battle zero is a little better. I prefer to zero at 36 yards, for the reasons provided in the video above. This will be for both my BUIS and my RDS. Not sure how big the Holo red dot is. I highly recommend that you review Frank Proctors video on this zeroing method and my brief comments on how it worked for me before attempting it. Shooting smaller groups on a short zero don't make them smaller at 100. . Could you run a 100 yard zero through your ballistic program and publish the drop? Jerking the Trigger posted up a quick target that allows us city-slickers to use available resources to our advantage. Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Start typing to see results or hit ESC to close, Holistic Solutions Group: 2 Day Night Fighter. Zeroing is best conducted by following these steps: Bore sighting Rough Adjustment Shoot a Group Fine Adjustment Optimal Zero Great zero for shooting steel silhouettes for a target. Good info here. When zeroed at 25 yards the round will also be zeroed at 300 yards. The graph shows that your .270 Win. I am 75 yo and I can not read the gray very well, really strains my eyes. 36yrd zero for 5.56 and 50/200 for .308 is good enough for most everyone that isn't precision shooting. But that is also the round itself not the zeros fault. With calibers like .308 and 6.5 creedmoor. Not really sure how to zero this in, Johnny, its not his fault that you are old. So aiming at a steel circle, you would have to hold off of the target. 36yrd gave me the smallest spread of 6.125" to 250yrds and not much variation inside of 36yrds. So many abbreviations on this sight it gets confusing on some stuff. t of aim at 25 yards, which puts them at roughly point of aim at 100 yards because of how bullet trajectory works. 2023 Springfield Armory. You should always check your zero at the actual zero distance when possible but this will get you close. C. The gray dot is 1.9 below your point of aim (POA) and represents your point of impact (POI). Cons: With such a short zero distance, you are really Arcing thing bullet. The black dot represents your point of aim. If you are hunting in the woods your shooting range should not extend beyond 200 or 300 yards. At the range I ran through some drills to work on accuracy and precision. Repeated trips walking up and down the range and hopefully you are at least on paper for your first group Well, Frank Proctor, from Way of the Gun, and Jerking the Trigger have come up with a great target. UPDATE 2: It may go without saying but this target can also be used to fine-tune your zero at a greater distance. 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By 200 yards you're already needing to compensate for bullet drop. The 36 yard zero is nothing new. I'll take that. The original non-tapered heavy barrel is 22 long and has a 1/9 twist. they have figured out a target you can zero on at 10 yards which will give you a 50/200 yard zero for your rifle at range. Thanks for the cheatI almost feel bad letting you do the work, but I have an SBR that needs zeroing and a sunny afternoon! Looks more like that. Whether thats 100 yards and in or from zero to 300 yards, there are a few viable options from which you can choose. Tom, with a 100 yard zero, POI will be about 2.2 below POA at 10 yards if my calculations are correct. One shows it compared to a 100 yard zero and the other shows it compared to different rounds. 1.7K 231 gunksmtn1216 6 days ago The whole debate is pretty stupid. You will get effective hits out to 300. ._3K2ydhts9_ES4s9UpcXqBi{display:block;padding:0 16px;width:100%} sell your cloak and buy one." Luke 22:36. 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Second is the Marine Corps' recommended 36/300 yard BZO. Chances are youll be very close, if not dead on. For squirrels and rabbits under the conditions we hunt this works out well. Past 200 it falls fast. Shooting smaller groups on a short zero don't make them smaller at 100. I've been at 36yd for about a year in the AR and AK, both are 5.56. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Cons: None. Kurt Warner. Point and shoot from 50 yards to 150 yards. I use a 50yd zero for my scoped .223 has coyote rifle, using ammo in the 62gr-69gr range, because I get plenty of close shots. If you want to be able to hold on someone's face and pull the trigger without needing to think about anything, 50 can facilitate that - the other two can't. Therefore, with a 26-yard zero, you can hold on the target and expect to hit a 6-inch vital zone from 0 . Remember that the hold-overs and hold-unders are in MOA. I are confused. The gray dot is 1.9 below your point of aim (POA) and represents your point of impact (POI). You are using an out of date browser. Been using Shawns 36 yard zero targets for a while to zero all my ARs. I don't really expect to have issues with my SBR past 200, could be kind of hard to explain why I felt threatened at that point. You can actually take an 11.5 out to 1000 yards with a 32 ish yard zero. 36 Yard Zero for .556? On the flip side, if you are guarding some tower and the terrain is very open and far, 25 or 36 might be the way to go. The 36/300 zero is where its at for irons or red dots. Often no time for hold over , hold under ect. Especially with a 7.5 Just about any self defense situation is gonna be well within that range anyway. Get our new posts sent right to your email! To say it differently, where would my rounds hit on a 6 in target at 10 yards if I had a 50 yard zero? It is a clean design that is easy to see even at 200 yards with a 20x scope. Keep in mind that, at 100 yards, your point of impact will be above the black dot if your point of aim is the black dot. 36yd zero, then memorize the remaining holds throughout the effective range of my load (bullet's min velocity for expansion, min energy, etc). The above post is my opinion and does not reflect the views of any company or organization. And the process begins all over. I will talk about my preferred distance to zero my AR chambered in 5.56. A quick copy of the original article is below and you can link to it directly by clicking here. To print the target, click the last link and be sure to follow the instructions on printing. Cons: Harsh hold unders out to 225 yards. It produces the narrowest range between the maximum rise and drop values (9.86"). In contrast, I also tested a 200 yard zero, which resulted in a -0.6 mil hold under at this same stretch of 60 yards to 120 yards. Of course, it is best to refine your zero at distances greater than 10 yards. 95% of all shots in USPSA are within 3-15 yards anyway. It works but i went back to a 50 yard. For all intents and purposes, I dont think youre going to be let down or at a severe disadvantage if you choose either one over the other. No worries! In both exercises I didnt feel I had to work harder to get hits using one zero or the other. Even the text is real thin, hard to read. However, many optics will allow you to click up or down in 1/2 moa increments, so if your using a variable just adjust up or down on the turret to match the come up. Then go out and check it. 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I prefer 200 yard zero for anything meant to shoot beyond 200 yards. The USMC method sees you zero at 36-yards for the initial intersection and that gets you all the way out to 300-yards. One of TFBs resident Jarheads, Nathan now works within the firearms industry. If I was engaging a target past 200 with a RDS, a head hold would produce a center of mass impact 39 yard zero is actually my mpbr for 223 out to 420 with 3 inch spread. It's important to shoot this group from the standing unsupported position. If I were in a self defense situation, with a 50 yard zero, Id have to aim like 6+ low at 15 yards? UPDATE 3: I receive multiple emails weekly about this target and its effectiveness with various other calibers and rifles. Go run this in 25m increments and see if it still falls within your acceptable accuracy standards. You need to figure out what works with your own rifle/optic/mount/barrel length. I've found a company that offers a 25 yard zero target that will put you at a 36 yard zero. Editors Note: Please be sure to check out The Armory Life Forum, where you can comment about our daily articles, as well as just talk guns and gear. While a 36/300 yard zero is great for open land, I find it to have a higher than wanted POI over POI in the 75-150 yard range for a CQB type gun. The 36-yard zero is a versatile option, providing an optimal balance between close-range and long-range shooting. Otherwise a 100-yard zero wastes your bullet's trajectory potential. Whenzeroing at a closer distance, the bullet will arc likeafootball. For example, something along these lines. This statement (and others like it) is one of the reasons 5.56 gets a bad rap. Next trip to the range I will be checking this out using M80 Ball. Breezy as all get out; torso target and the plastic uprights kept rocking forward as wind was coming from 12 o'clock. Cons: None out to 200 yards which is a 5 hold. By SIGHTS ARE ZEROED TO THE WEAPON, NOT TO THE PERSON SHOOTING THE RIFLE Either the sight is matched to the bullet trajectory, or it isn't. If youve read all this and still arent sure of the answer, start with a 50 yard zero and go from there. Lets just say Im going to use the same numbers as the 10.5 barrel. If you want to work it our properly, invest in one of the ballistics programs, input as much data . Two minutes and a ballistic calculator will show you this zero creates an arching trajectory that rises about 9 above the line of sight at 200 yards. This provides a trajectory with a maximum ordinate during flight of just over 4.5" above the line of sight at around 200 yards. Thanks for the video, I'm probably just gonna give it a shot next time at the range to see how it feels. This strategy does not provide much of an advantage unless longer range shooting is . But this should be a very close estimation. 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