Rigo:Some of it was just completely bonkers. News archive:Some of the ideas found in the book, the bell curve are not new. Stuff. This season we're going to talk about how racism and white supremacy have been baked into science , and how it's not about individual racists, or it's not about individual bad people, but in this story, there actually are individual bad people funding bad things. WebIn his four-and-a-half hour Archive interview, Phil Donahue describes the meandering path that led to hosting his long-running talk show, The Phil Donahue Show aka Donahue. Barry:He is eventually recognized by the Nazi government in 1936, both because of his work in the sterilization area, but also because he was a major proponent of the so called Racial Integrity Laws, the laws that prohibited people from being married if they were from different races. Especially of the southern, southern states in the United States had this one drop rule. And, um, my son picked up the phone one day, and this, uh, guy said to him, um, "I'm gonna kill you, chop you up into pieces, and mail you back to your dad in boxes.". web pages Donahue:and a big and larger genitals mean more promiscuity. Capture a web page as it appears now for use as a trusted citation in the future. Here's money for you. There's two things that were going on. So Rigo, you're one of our producers on our show, Distillations, and you've come in with a story today for us, right? About | Browse this Partner Contact Us Uploaded by Barry:His father left 11 million dollars, um, which was quite a fortune in, in those days. I'm sure the teenagers loved it. If you would like more information, please contact askhagley@hagley.org. It's to get the message out, "You can't go through the Jews because they distort everything.". Lisa:Sorry, Rigo, we haven't gotten to the really crazy part yet? MSNBC canceled Phil Donahues talkshow after an internal memo (leaked to the All Your TV website, 2/25/03) argued that he would be a difficult public face for NBC in a time of war. This is an episode from the spring of 1990. Unless otherwise noted, this file is provided for educational and research purposes only. I mean, I was never anybody really. He's a psychologist and a professor who's won a bunch of awards. ABC News Archive on Laughlin:It was called Erbkrant, which means hereditary, defective. He accuses Mehler of character assassination, bias, and of being a left wing nut. And actually, they found ours a bit too strict. Commercials were cut during the broadcast. However, The Pioneer Fund and the Mankind Quarterly are not just any other source. McNeil/Leher Report:What has landed the bell curve on the cover of many magazines and Charles Murray on numerous talk shows is that the book also links IQ with race on Mary's bell curve of IQ scores, blacks as a group have an average IQ of 85 whites, 100 Asians, 105. The precursor to all the daytime talk shows that arose during the 1980's and 90's. If I was on a national public radio program, that's fine. [laughs]. Sam Harris:People don't want to hear that intelligence is a real thing, and that some people have more of it than others, and they certainly don't want to hear the average IQ differs across races and ethnic groups. Eventually, the popularity of this approach proved to be his downfall, See production, box office & company info. They wanted the ideas out but not their name. After 29 years, (26 of which in syndication) and nearly 7,000 shows, the final episode aired on September 13, 1996. In 2002, Donahue was ranked 29th on TV Guide magazine's list of the 50 greatest television shows of all-time. [7] ^ Heldenfels, Rich (2019-01-09). Actually, this brings something up for me. They didn't really care about the science, but they relied on the science to give some sort of validity to their claims of racial inferiority, and Arthur Jensen was literally a star. Rigo:Yeah. Whites have fewer sexual partners than do blacks. Rigo: Barry Mehler's TV appearances made Roger Pearson furious. And then he has a long and thorough correspondence and involvement with people in Germany both before and after the Nazi ascendancy. They weren't seeing the things that Barry was seeing, so Mehler goes down the rabbit hole of white supremacist literature, and what he finds shocks him even more. He has been married to Marlo Thomas since May 21, 1980. Lisa:Give me a taste of who we're talking about there. They distributed one of Hitler's propaganda films to American high schools with English subtitles. Lisa:Welcome to Innate: How science invented the Myth of Race: This is episode three: Keepers of the Flame. It's giving these ideas air, right? So I want to take you back to the 1990s with this video that I found on YouTube. All this stuff would arrive at my door, you know, and no other name, I just, you know, myself and but, but I was no- Nobody knew me. Additional musicbyBlue Dot Sessions. Wow, William Shockley. It brought together two different groups, those American scientists who were opposed to the civil rights movement, and who wanted to emphasize the inferiority of Blacks, and European scientists who were still promoting the kind of racial hygiene that had been at the core of the policies instituted by the Third Reich. Barry:This kind of propaganda, and this kind of advocacy goes on for some time. Capture a web page as it appears now for use as a trusted citation in the future. Rigo:And since then, Mehler has always operated under the assumption that Nazis never really went away, and as it turns out, he's right. He really started to feel their wrath. 8 No. Senior Producer: Mariel Carr That's the question is, uh, who is funding Philippe Rushton? Rigo:Exactly, and you know what comes next is that Drape becomes a cash cow for Laughlin's schemes. 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Subscribe to our quarterly newsletter for the latest These things meant a lot to him, and he has a huge inheritance burning a hole in his pocket, so he's looking around for a great social cause to pour his money into, so he becomes drawn to what else but eugenics. Barry:You know when you don't want to know? Lisa:Wow. When I looked at that, I said, "Here, finally, is a Nazi I don't have to worry about. Capture a web page as it appears now for use as a trusted citation in the future. Americans were getting spooked by what they saw in Germany. Rigo:Orthodox Jewish men and boys wear a kippah, or a skullcap every day. This is an episode from the spring of 1990. on September 9, 2018. The pioneer fund has been the key source of funding for the last 20 years of scientists who have produced the material. And in one of the books that he was writing, he devoted an entire chapter to Barry Mehler. He recalls how his success hosting the call-in radio talk show, "Conversation Piece," in Dayton, Ohio sparked the interest of the local television station's general manager. Now, for better or worse, these are all facts. The opposite, in fact. Lisa:Okay, let me zoom out a little bit. During the War of 1870, astronomer Jules Janssen risked his life for scientific prestige and French patriotism. Rigo: In 1935, before the Pioneer Fund is official, Laughlin sends Wycliffe Draper to a eugenics academic conference in Berlin. There's like, an intellectual continuity, so that theory Mehler had as a 13 year old boy, that the Nazis didn't just suddenly disappear, he was right. That's how I felt. Lisa:Yeah. After the publishing of The Bell Curve, and the controversy surrounding it, The Pioneer Fund decided to step out of the spotlight and continue doing the things they knew how to do well since 1937, which was to mail out unsolicited propaganda to prominent scientists and politicians. Rigo:In 1961, he co founded a journal called the Mankind Quarterly, and guess who's funding the journal? He originally thought any difference in intelligence Black and white people were from environmental factors, but after working with Shockley, Jensen started arguing that intelligence was inherited. Rigo:They're projecting, obviously. The publication of the book put The Pioneer Fund and Barry Mehler on the spotlight. By downloading this file you agree to our access conditions and use restrictions. "I realized during the commercials that these people in the audience were asking better questions than I was. Lisa:Back up a second. Phillipe Rushton on Donohue:Oriental populations have less sexual partners than do whites. They painted the swastika backwards." Here's the work I'm doing. Barry:They're the ones who are winning. Rigo:Right. I had a subscription to all these, you know, Nazi newspapers. Lisa:So basically Mehler's kitchen table would have been filled with racist propaganda hate mail 24/7 365? Lisa:Sure. Signed, photo. The Bell Curve was The Pioneer Fund's biggest win when it was published in 1994. The Pioneer Fund was just handing over cash. And the thing he had to hide were 17citations that came from a little known journal called the Mankind Quarterly. It was the first talk show that included audience participation and ran for 29 years on national TV. Lisa:Rigo, I feel like you're about to tell me that there's a secret clique or confederacy if you will of rich racists sitting in a basement somewhere funding every racist academic. Archival of Shockley:My research leads me inescapably to the opinion that the major cause of the American Negro's intellectual and social deficits is hereditary and racially genetic in origin. Bill:He liked to be referred to as Colonel Draper, or the Colonel. Unpublished finding aid available at the repository. 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