Who is the Mother? That's laughable. A parable has been going around in which two babies talk in the womb about life after delivery. In order for the two babies to grow in the womb it took a father and a mother to make them? Third: Yes! Nonsense, said the first. So its our prayer that you will make the choice to believe! It will speak to us where we most need it. Two of my friends are blind and one is crippled. Well, your perspective certainly comes through in this story, Phil. These resources also follow. By the way, I have referenced Molineros version in the comments to this post. The way I see it, the parable, as it is written here, just says that people who believe in life after death, no matter what their religion, may be right. Ill be in touch shortly to set up our connection call. , Your email address will not be published. Filed Under: Uncategorized Tagged With: consciousness, Laurie Seymour, meditation, parable, reality, spiritual, spiritual path, spiritual transformation, The Baca Journey, two babies in mother's womb, Do you find yourself doing the same thing youve always done? But Brothers not actually dead anymore. Yes. If you or a loved one is in need of care, it is important that you access this care from your own care provider. The gifts are endless. As an author, I always want to give the creative source credit with a proper notation. However it seems like an analogy less on a discourse on faith, and more of a discourse on subjective experiences of truth based on knowledge and the conviction in the nature of reality, in the context of consciousness. I believe there is a reality after delivery and we are here to prepare ourselves for that reality when it comes.. She is all around us. Helping you to find the gold nuggets amidst the dirt, sand and pebbles of life! Altre fonti la attribuiscono a Henry J. W. Nouwen, e Laurie Seymour di Baca Journey sostiene che la storia, con tutte le sue variazioni, sia stata adattata dagli scritti di Pablo [], [] In a mothers womb were two babies. We are surrounded by her. There is heaven life after earth life. our mouths. Shalom to you all! But how can we possibly believe in something we cant see? Wander around! Also, Mother told me this personally. And, eat with our mouths? "but certainly we will see mother and she will take care of us". Just out of curiosity. Without mother we cant exist God the father made things exist through this physical life to testify the Spitural life God is know to be our Father but in order to be called Father you have to have kids and in order to have kids you have to have a mother because only a mother can have kids! RELATED: 10 Modern Day Parables To Inspire Your Faith. Life after delivery is to be excluded. Thank you for such an insightful comment (and commentary), Deepa. One asked the other: "Do you believe in life after delivery?" The other replied, "Why, of course. My other friend, who is also a very good born again Christian, got depressed because when she was born she never saw her mother. My question to you is, How are you becoming more conscious? This is a very worrying trend with far reaching consequences. John McCain and Joe Bidens Friendship Shows Us How Politics is Supposed to Work, LaDonna Remy MSW, LICSW: Perspective on Trauma, Reblog: Grief and Spirituality: The Parable of Two Babies Talking in the Womb. 2023 Therapeutic Grace.Website by Your Digital Presence, Cannabis CompanionMassage TherapyReikiMeditationWellness CoachingWedding Officiating Services, Feb 27, 2023 CHOICE, Feb 20, 2023 Worth is Found in the Absence of Judgement, 14683 Old Simcoe RoadPrince Albert, ONL9L 1C3, Phone: 905.985.2006Cell: 905.447.7939Email: therapeuticgrace@gmail.com. This is absurd! Walking is impossible. It was the worst mistake I had ever done and that I learnt some very important lessons. Where is she now?, The second baby calmly and patiently tried to explain. Beautiful! Maybe we are here to prepare ourselves for what we will be later." In a mother's womb were two babies. This applies to spirituality as well. Required fields are marked *. No this does not mean that someone who never marries cannot grow, please see my above comment. There is no life after delivery. And both knew that theirbirth was at hand. When the twins had passed from their world, they opened their eyes and cried for joy for what they saw exceeded their fondest . And both feared what they did not know. Over-simplication. It really does, Sheryl. Because we all know about mothers love right? Perhaps one a life of heavenly love and joy, and the other a life of hell? The conversation of authorship continues. Thanks. The inner guidance that is available to me (and to you) is something that I treasure. [] French story. Other sources credit Henri J. W. Nouwen for the tale, and Laurie Seymour of Baca Journey claims that the story, in all of its variations, has been adapted from the writings of Pablo [], [] vecchia storia francese. And, when he or she is ready (as their grief has come to a place that they are able to begin the process of taking in new information) sharing resources is always a good starting point. Warmest regards, Laurie, Why is do we believe we only have one creator our heavenly father? Ridiculous. Maybe we are here to prepare ourselves for what we will be later." "Nonsense" said the first. It takes time to genuinely accept that our loved one will not return, and that our lives will never be the same again. It is in her that we live. Hallelujah!! http://opentohope.com 4) The National Alliance for Grieving Children: Resources and Support for children including a section on Covid-19. I always feel the importance of tapping into ones own relationship with a parable like this. Ha. California Do Not Sell My Personal Information. How can loving Christians propagate such ideals? . Responding like you did before, even though you want to do it differently? That's laughable. Two Babies Talk In The Womb (A Faith Parable) Faith is a tricky thing. How cruel is it to imagine any manner or form of consequences from an all knowing mother. I felt to respond to your thoughtful comment. Id like to tell Roni thanks for pointing this out, because I felt the same thing when I read the story the second time. Ed Sheeran has told how his wife had a tumour last year that could only be treated after the birth of their second child. Sizemore's manager, Charles Lago, released a . God bless. Black women like her are 243 percent more likely than white women to die of pregnancy- or childbirth-related causes . If Mother exists then where is She now?, The second said, She is all around us. Poetry, story and real life. No matter, what the reality is? Id say not. Third: Look, Brother died so that we can live. Like a three-stage rocket, first there is life inside the womb. It takes us nowhere., Well, I dont know, said the second, but certainly we will meet Mother and she will take care of us., The first replied Mother? Ridiculous. The umbilical cord supplies nutrition. so what is the relevance of this belief. The umbilical cord is too short., The second baby held his ground. Noting that she and Carter made a pact to keep things a secret until Phoenix was at least a week old, Paris added that her mom's eventual reaction to the entire thing was "priceless.". There are many versions of this parable available online and have been passed along through storytelling over the ages. Before and after, in this case, is a continuation of life, which is not comparable to life after death (i.e., absence of life as we know it.) But the umbilical cord is so short. It can deepen pain due to the seeming dismissiveness of ones personal relationship around the loss. Your email address will not be published. Without Her this world would not and could not exist., Said the first: Well I don't see Her, so it is only logical that She doesn't exist., To which the second replied, Sometimes, when you're in silence and you focus and you really listen, you can perceive Her presence, and you can hear Her loving voice, calling down from above.'. one is believing other is unbelieving but both get the same result. In a mother's womb were two babies. And eat with our mouths? Delivery is the end of life, and in the after-delivery there is nothing but darkness and silence and oblivion. It is a thought-provoking idea. For others, including women strong enough to consider it, its something to think about. Yes we are all brothers and got here through the miracle of Birth. Different approaches, different thoughts, different rhythm to the writings, different intent, different outcome, different essence. The discussion between the two babies is not about faith, it is about how one baby is sharing a knowledge based on prior experience, while the other baby is limited in knowledge lacking an experience. Many thanks and best regards.:). Having (and consistently connecting with) a belief system is helpful in this process. As a result of my coaching experience I am now looking forward to starting a degree as a mature student something I would never have thought possible. Just as in the Parable of Two Babies Talking in the womb, its natural to be cautious and afraid of the unknown.. but perhaps the step that will next be placed in front of us will change the whole narrative. Without her there would not be this world. The umbilical cord is too short." "I think there is something and maybe it's different than it is here." The other replies, "No one has ever come back from there. SherylEveryone receives the meaning that is right for them. Just because you found a way to clearly and beautifully explain what you believe, does not automatically prove its truth. It doesnt say anything about what happens after the babies are birn, although I understand that the original parable, by Pablo Molinero, did. It is in her that we live. Continue reading. Thats a pattern. Enjoy. Thank you, Jonathan for your quite thoughtful and heartfelt comment. Without her there would not be this world.Ha. I can choose to not acknowledge that. If Mother exists then where is She now?, The second said, She is all around us. Ive enjoyed your explanation on the parable and relating grief to perspective. Thanks for your comment. "Maybe she only lives in our minds. Nice story,but I have one doubt Either the brother believe in mother and the life after birth or not he will come out from moms womb after 9 month and he realize that there is one mother and a place to live. It has helped me talk to friends about death, God, and life after death. A possible ending just given to me, that becomes a reality for millions of unborn children unfortunately, and casts doubt on the glorification of the Mother, because of the assault on the Divine Feminine by feminism: And then the cold steel instruments of abortion appeared, violating the sanctity and security of the womb, and ripped the two twins to pieces, removing them from their blissful sanctuary as has been done to millions of babies before them, while the words, Sorry kids, Mother doesnt want you, after all echoed around them, and the pieces of their torn and mangled bodies were relegated to a medical waste bin and God only knows what became of their consciousness. -FMZ. After allegedly smelling marijuana, police said they searched the SUV and found a bag with 31 oxycodone tablets and almost $75,000 in cash. I have not been able to confirm anything. And moreover if there is life, then why has no one has ever come back from there? almost right both are delivered one unto life everlasting and one unto death everlasting. Logo by Walker/Nolta. It could be any two people contemplating their situation. Also the believer will have a easier journey, transistion. Offering to early is also dismissive. a) mother could die even before birth b) both babies could die etc. This is the true malignance of the story, its own logical conclusion. And if I dont believe in Brother and call him master, then Mother will send me to the furnace after delivery? Delivery is the end of life, and in the after-delivery there is nothing but darkness and silence and oblivion. Delivery is the end of life, and in the after-delivery there is nothing but darkness and silence and oblivion. Ridiculous. Thank you Matthew! Yes, Jude! It is your responsibility to seek individual clinical care from your own provider, who will know or learn your specific circumstances, should care be needed. These questions and our struggle with them is where we make new meaning, find the depths of our personal strength, and often our connection to spiritual belief. If we attempt to take this analogy to some kind of logical conclusion, and number of outcomes are possible. It is in Her that we live. But hes also Mother. He rules out the ability of multiple people using similar platforms to express visions or ideas. Maybe we wont need this physical cord anymore., The first replied, Nonsense. One asked the other: "Do you believe in life after delivery?" The other replied, "Why, of course. The umbilical cord is too short." The second baby held his ground. Maybe we are here to prepare ourselves for what we will be later., Nonsense, said the first. The lightness of the Parable of the Two Babies that was written by A Guide to Spirit is quite the contrast to the dark work of Boy and Girl. "Well, I don't know" said the twin. Its having complete confidence in what we cannot see (Hebrews 11:1). The sessions helped to overcome mind level barriers I was experiencing and overcoming thought patterns which did not serve me well, nor my business! I can feel the care you have on humans, you shared a very important information. Hi Roni, This story has been shared 98,957 times. but certainly we will see mother and she will take care of us. In addition, I would add Coco (2017) to this list. Pablo Molinero wrote to me recently (https://pablomolinero.com/) to share his original, quite detailed story out of which it appears these other versions have emerged. She was dumped on the wayside and she was raised as an orphan. Mother has very specific instructions for us in this Book. A mummified corpse up to 800 years old was found in a food delivery bag in Peru, authorities in the South American country have said.. We either obtaine everlasting life through the work of the Man Jesus Christ or we receive eternal separation from God. Thus I view the goal lift your perception to love (follow after love). When Susan Preece-Gervaise was four years old in 1969, a couple offered to take her on a two-week trip to Florida to visit . A year ago I discovered a parable titled, "Life After Birth," that has moved and shifted me from the core. That led me to your nice blog. -Rob, Im with you Rob! "She was so surprised. So this baby in the womb analogy doesnt actually hold up very well in a debate. 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