There is a legitimate authority of taking action in reality to stop wrongs, done through a moral capacity, where we live under our own authorship to create the world according to authentic, real, genuine, true (maa) moral living. Example: "In DBZ, all the battles have flashy afterimages, speed lines, blurs, and other effects. This fallacy consists of a situation when there are two possibilities, and if one is known to be true, claiming that the other one is false, when in fact they both could be true. This is when someone attempts to rebut an argument by speculating on what ulterior motives the person making the argument might have, instead of addressing the argument itself. Generally try to avoid derailing content revision discussion threads from the original topic, We cannot deal with too many different subjects at once, so it is usually better to start a new thread instead. This is when someone claims that if more people think one thing than another thing, then the one supported by the majority is correct. Many of these sources are not made with our specific standards in mind, lack proper source references, and may contain a lot of arguments that have already been discussed or are useless for the purpose of the relevant threads, which makes them hard to evaluate. This occurs when someone uses calculations to attempt to prove something, but there is an error in their math. Believed to be the entities which drew DC Comics on the blank page that is the Overmonitor, The Writers represent DC's true supreme beings. So what they're really saying is simply that Goku is not slower, weaker, dumber, and a worse tactician than every American comic book character. However, certain topics keep popping up repeatedly, generally made by new members, despite being discussed and resolved multiple times in the past. However, their points should not be discarded, and this should not be treated as that user conceding. Avoid writing upgrade threads mainly based on assumptions from a limited amount of information, with no additional context or evidence to support them. The person in this example states that since they do not know of something personally, it cannot exist. Contribute to the Tougen Anki Wiki! Omnipotence is its definition. The partnership brings together two of the world's leading maritime contractors; VolkerStevin focusing on marine civil engineering and Boskalis Westminster on dredging, land reclamation and marine construction. Do not create discussion threads trying to upgrade the Z Anime and GT characters based on. Authority book. Potential mediums for viewing a cosmology as fiction include: written media (Books or stories), images (Paintings, comics, or movies), data (Simulations or video games), or mental constructs (thoughts or dreams). This only applies to matters of opinion and subjectivity, because even if the sample wasn't biased, this would not be an effective argument for an objective claim due to the appeal to popularity fallacy. A highly decorated police lieutenant of the Revachol Citizens Militia (RCM), his life took a turn for the worse when his pregnant fiance aborted their child and eloped with another man to a different isola, citing his drunken erraticness as the primary reason. You can see the person is trying to just exhaust his opponent with tons of words and unnecessary verbosity instead of arguing the actual points. A character that qualifies would usually then scale to one level of infinity higher than the totality of the cosmology they transcend. Even if person B is right and person A did lie about that, that doesn't mean that person's B's lie about Buu's power level should just be accepted. Example: "Person A is known for being a biased One Piece fanboy, therefore you shouldn't listen to him when he says Luffy can beat Ichigo.". ( Author ) ] { Hardcover } 2009 by Linder, Stuart A. This is when one person corrupts an opponent's argument into something different, a "straw man" that they set up just to knock it down. Regarding how to gauge the reliability of statements about characters. In this article. Specialist vessels have started to arrive at the Port of Dover for the commencement of harbour dredging for the Port's flagship Dover Western Docks Revival (DWDR) development, which will enhance essential port capacity and kick-start local regeneration. Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! I win!". AUTHORITY, contracts. Example: "Are you still making that retarded claim?". This is when people assume that because their opponent has committed a logical fallacy, their argument must therefore be wrong. While this could be possible, there is no confirmation, and merely because other ninjas know it doesn't mean he does. Believed to be the entities which drew DC Comics on the blank page that is the Overmonitor, The Writers represent DC's true supreme beings. To him or her, reality and its inhabitants are just stories, characters that can be shaped into whatever they desire them to be, and should they become unsatisfied with the current state of creation, it can all be easily altered through a retcon. Here I've reviewed five great martial arts fiction novels that stand apart from the tired Wuxia and Manga-style genres, through great storytelling and even better characters.. This is when a statistical survey only takes into consideration a sample of people or entities that are biased towards the conclusion. The reasoning behind this character's rating is this: Grant Morrison has stated in interviews that DC Comics was drawn on The Overmonitor against its will, by an entirely separate entity. If the book is very new, reviews may not be readily available. NOTE: There is a difference between an ad hominem and a plain insult. knowledgeable members list for the terminology, standards, and concepts of this wiki, https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:VS_Battles_Main_Image_3.png, who possess a reasonable level of genuine understanding and expertise, accepted to be legitimate/scale to his AP, Power-scaling Rules for Marvel and DC Comics, Here is a statement by IDW editor Bobby Curnow, And here is another statement from the TV show co-director Jim Miller that he has not read the comics yet, and after doing a bit of reading he stated that the comics and the show are separate, regardless of comments from the TV show's creators. The weapon was only ever used on Ronan, and the feat has been deemed too inconsistent to be considered anything other than an Outlier. For thirty years, a secret agency called the Southern Reach has monito. This is when someone makes a claim and writes a long, often repetitive essay in order to prove it, when they really do not have very strong evidence whatsoever and are just trying to make their opponent accept their claim by barraging him with long, drawn - out writing. This may involve seeking the opinion of higher-ranked staff members, or consulting with staff members who possess specific expertise or knowledge related to the revision in question. For information regarding the procedure that needs to be exactly followed to register there, please click here. Special Containment Procedures: SCP-3812 is currently only partially contained 1.See containment proposal brief below for more information. A well-written professional review will address the authority of the author. Example: "Afterimages, blurry images, and speed lines usually are used in manga and comics to denote speed. And why doesn't he speak anymore? Where is he now? He was tagged by Grodd, who grabbed his leg from behind, pulled him away, and bit into his leg!". Harrier Du Bois is the main protagonist of Disco Elysium. It's the same for almost everyone. For minor revisions and self-evident revisions, it is sufficient to seek the approval of one staff member with evaluation rights. Then he began to withdraw, and he forbade Moses to look at his face. Characters like Popeye are capable of attacking their authors but these are generally treated as gag feats which should not be taken seriously. Please refrain from attempting to upgrade the regular statistics of, Please do not attempt to upgrade the Truth Seeking Orbs from. However, we make exceptions for. The Authority was 10-C andthere was no wind in the room), Bacteriophage (Real World) Bacteriophage's Profile, Hody Jones (One Piece) Hody's Profile (This is 10-C Authority vs Elderly Hody, Speed is Equalized, battle takes place at a Burger King in Nebraska. Due to this, the character will be treated as completely superior to the cosmology it transcends, and all characters limited to it, and will thus be granted a higher tier. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. ", More complex descriptions of various logical fallacies. Please don't attempt to upgrade the Sphere of Gods to tier Low 1-A or 1-A. If it is not sufficiently portrayed as transcendence compared to the fictional world, then we would not index it as such and would simply tier it as if no R>F transcendence was involved. Staff members and trusted knowledgeable members who do not have content revision thread evaluation rights are still encouraged to provide their insights and observations regarding suggested revisions. The person in this argument holds Itachi's statement to be absolute truth, ignoring the possibility that Itachi has no knowledge of certain enemies, or never expected to encounter them. Two wrongs don't make a right, after all. Do not create discussion threads trying to upgrade Vegito to Low 2-C via scaling from Kefla or Infinite Zamasu. If the source of the statement is reliable? and have no discernible arguments of their own. Example: "In Bleach, Arrancars use the 'Sonido' speed technique. The realities are portrayed like parallel universes or otherwise as having just a finite difference in scale or having a similar nature. Cannot overpower Omnipotent beings or Author Authority users. Person 2: That's Ad Hominem, therefore Barry Allen is not faster than Sonic. Likewise, no character can comprehend the complete Writer, instead of only being capable of interacting with representations. There, it is shown that one universe's reality is another's fiction, and characters will often encounter and read their own comic books when traversing between the Multiverse. For example the author character might have a book that contains the world, but the author themselves are also a character in it and don't exist outside it any more than other characters of that world. Example: "Dark Schneider is really powerful.". Scaling characters to this weapon would also cause too large inconsistencies throughout the entire verse. The delegation 2. This is when someone states that they personally believe something to be true, without providing any actual evidence. 2 legal permission granted to a person to perform a specified act. The Overmonitor itself, in fact, is meant to be a representation of the blank page on which the comic is drawn. You can do so by, Only add tags that are directly relevant to the discussion threads. There's no way he'd sense the Flash, who only has normal human - equivalent ki, and is moving way faster than any DBZ character, and even if he did, he wouldn't be able to react in time to stop him. A character CAN be upgraded by word of mouth alone. This type of argument takes many forms, but the general idea is that it works on a person's feelings to try to make them see one choice as preferable over another. Additionally, it is worth mentioning that Bureaucrats primarily have a lot of authority when it comes to major wiki policy changes, rather than regular content revision threads. It is important to remember that all staff members, regardless of their rank, have a responsibility to act in the best interests of each verse by prioritizing accuracy and quality above personal preferences or biases. Authorship & Authority When you consider the quality of your sources, you should also consider the authorship and authority of your sources. (shelved 1 time as question-authority) avg rating 3.57 13,191 ratings published 1968. It is possible for a staff member to initiate a content revision thread and have their vote counted. He can easily sense the slow - ass Flash right in front of him! That means he could move at relativistic speed.". Example: "Luffy wore an afro when he fought Foxy. Instances of minor revisions may include changes to one or two characters, if it is just the addition of simple abilities that do not fall into the categories of acausality (except type 1), concept manipulation, abstract existence, plot manipulation, information manipulation, causality manipulation, nonexistent physiology, law manipulation etc. He falsely declared to the angels who were born after him that he was God, and was worshiped as such. one should ask oneself: Is it by nature of the depiction likely that nothing that happens in the 'fictional world', no matter how powerful, could affect the 'real world' due to the fictional nature of the former? As such, please follow suit and do not try to argue for allowing it again, as it only serves to waste the time of other members. At the beginning of the world, God walked in the Garden and spoke with Adam and Eve. The Hiroshima nuke was around 15 kilotons, so this bomb would have a yield of 15 petatons!". Tm hiu thm. ", Person B. That means they can also travel through time.". He declared himself leader over the angels created after him, lying by claiming to. We have moved to a new external forum hosted at https://vsbattles.com. Example: "The poll in this thread has more votes for character A than character B, so character A wins". Power/Ability to: Be the author of existence. It is also completely incompatible with our tiering system, given that it was mainly created in order to flood wikis such as our own with hundreds of tier 0 pages. Therefore, the members of CP10 must be even stronger than the members of CP9!". However, as he aged still, The Ancient of Days was betrayed by Metatron, who stole all his remaining power and imprisoned him in a crystal sphere where he could never truly die. Furthermore, Grant Morrison's Final Crisis and Multiversity hold a cosmology built around the duality between Reality and Fiction. Please refrain from trying to downgrade DOOM from Low 1-C via. Another example: "Deidara defeated the Sanbi Bijuu, therefore he will always win a fight against a Bijuu, even the full nine - tails Kyuubi.". This page is taken from the Vs Battles Wiki and is NOT the property of this wiki! This argument ignores the possibility that the said effects were added for some other reason, or that they are simply there to exaggerate the object's movement rather than to imply vast supernatural speed. Content Marketers. The final decision on the approval of a content revision should be based on a thorough and unbiased evaluation of the suggested changes and their impact on a verse. Although one of the them stated that "there are only 26 dimensions that matter", there is not enough sufficient evidence to scale them to such level, as they only have one appearance and statement in the entire series, and the mentioning of dimensions doesn't automatically fit the criteria in our, Please do not attempt to change the statistics of, Gremmy creating outer space has been discussed numerous times and even. However, do not add. Thus, characters that exist in the 'real world' such as The Player (Imscared) and SCP-001 (S Andrew Swann's Proposal) would be fictional representations of real people, and not actual real people who exist. However, he . In the absence of this evidence, CRTs may be closed without notice. JavaScript is disabled. Note that the medium is usually a representation or container for the fiction on a higher plane and not necessarily the fiction in itself. The person in this example starts with a true premise (Goku leaves afterimages), but then jumps to a conclusion which is in no way implied by that premise (Goku is FTL). This ignores that not every One Piece character reacts to physical attacks in the same was as a logia. This is because they often lead from friendly fun to sexualized drawings of minors or otherwise get out of hand into NSFW areas. Example: "DBZ characters are so powerful, I find it hard to believe that there are characters stronger than them.". This is when someone asks a question that presupposes a conclusion, so no matter what yes or no answer the person gives, it will fit the agenda of his opponent. Please help us by creating or editing any of our articles! To reiterate, when creating content revision threads, it is best to keep your suggestions as structured and simple to understand as possible, so the staff will have an easier time evaluating the text. You just have to double check to see by how much, as well as: Note: Please remember that character and narrative statements tend to use flowery language and exaggerate to certain degrees. "The Green Knight is stated in-universe to be invincible. 57 Bible Verses about Authority. This grace period applies to both minor and self-evident revisions, as well as larger revisions that may require more input from other staff members. It is understood that there may be instances where a staff member has expertise or knowledge of a particular series verse that allows them to confidently approve a revision on their own. Gave the Harpies their ability to interact with and absorb memories/emotions), Power Bestowal/Absorption (Appointed Metatron as his regent and gave him most of his power, who used it to absorb the Authority's remaining power), Genius Intelligence/Cosmic Awareness (An Angels mind/awareness extends into every universe of which there are countless billions to infinite), Information Analysis (Able to search and scour someone's being to glean information about them), Abstract Existence/Intangibility/Light Manipulation (Type 1; Angels are made of Light and emit so much light they are difficult to look at, their true form is described as 'akin to architecture, and composed entirely of intelligence and feeling), Matter Manipulation (A lesser angel could alter the particles in the air on an atomic level), Soul Manipulation/Law Manipulation (Far lesser angels pull souls from the worlds of the multiverse and cast them to the Afterlife, or transform them into angels. Authority. The fictional characters being able to attack the real ones without being shown to somehow have transcended their fictional world or having special abilities that allow it. This is when someone's conclusion is buried in their premise. One can also consider how characters existing in a book or comic, exist only on the two-dimensional surface of the sheet of paper, to make an analogy to the differences between dimensions of space. NOTE: This is a very simple example, usually straw men are much harder to spot than this. Before making sweeping or significant changes to characters or verse pages, please start a thread in the, In cases where the series verse has a significant following or a large amount of material has been published based on its content, it may be necessary to seek approval from. Throughout this article, you can generally think of an authority as an identity provider. 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